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please stop the hate, and no more bullying! by xXkureathehedgehogXx please stop the hate, and no more bullying! by xXkureathehedgehogXx
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please stop the hate, and no more bullying!by xXkureathehedgehogXx

Digital Art / Other / Other©2012-2015 xXkureathehedgehogXx
Ian flynn himself said this to me, and this is the truth about sonamy and sonsal! so stop the hate!

If you can't read it, either download it, or read the text below.

Take it from me: SonAmy, SonSal, SonMina, SonWhoever - there are folks who get way too worked up about it. If somebody is going out of their way to make you feel bad about what you prefer, they've got no life. The comics and games are supposed to be fun. Getting bent out of shape over an imaginary pairing is no fun, so tune those people out.

In terms of the games, SonAmy is sorta-canon, with the emphasis being on Amy pursuing Sonic. You could argue Elise and Blaze blur the distinction, but the games are pretty clearly SonAmy.

The comics are SonNobody. Sonic is currently into Sally, but we're bound by SEGA's rules to not have him fully commit to anybody. He could move on to Amy or somebody else entirely.

But, ultimately, you enjoy the book however you want. Don't let anybody tell you different.

Hang in there,
Ian
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:iconbarbara-the-hedgecat:
barbara-the-hedgecat Featured By Owner Jun 24, 2012  Student Digital Artist
i agree 100%
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Sp1d3rgirl07 Featured By Owner Jun 24, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I can't believe after reading this, there are people who STILL want to fight over it. :iconsonicfacepalmplz:
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xXkureathehedgehogXx Featured By Owner Jun 24, 2012
I know right? "coughsonikku-animecough"
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Sp1d3rgirl07 Featured By Owner Jun 24, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Yes, I saw XD
How could a deviation that clearly showed us we were all being stupid fighting over pairings, and how each of the pairings could work without the hate, and clearly designed to STOP the hate, cause MORE arguments? What is the logic in all of that?

I think some people just like arguing too much. Thank god there are SOME sane fans around here :D

And I just saw that your one of Dani's friends (Soul/ShadowxFangirl) so I know you aren't like the people described above ^^ because Soul wouldn't choose to be friends with someone like that :icondragonhugplz: I trust her judgement, so you must be awesome :D
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xXkureathehedgehogXx Featured By Owner Jun 24, 2012
aww, thx you too!
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tigasan101 Featured By Owner Jun 14, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I totally agree with Ian. Sonic can be with anyone he wants. Things like SonCream or Sonouge are very unlikely though. I could understand something like (What if Sonic and Cream were a couple?) and have a pic of the fankids. But some people honestly think they're together.

The games and shows have to be very careful though. Cuz if there was a SonAmy make-out scene in one of the games there would be a huge war between the couples. If there was a canon couple all the people that like it differently could stop liking the show, games, comics etc. So it's probably best the way it is.

The thing is if there's a sonamy fan out there and they see something on the game where IDK amy kisses sonic on the cheek and his ears stick up and he blushes or something they make a big deal out of it and :squee: Im not saying all of them!!! Im just making an example!!! But lots of people are like this and have to point out every single little thing. Which makes really stupid sounding couples like Sonic and Wave or Sonic and Bunnie even though they hint it like this.


Then when somebody meets one of the few people like that they ask why, and the they have to point out every single detail. Then, when that person BACKFIRES and tells them everything that happened in their Sonic Couple the first person feels the need to reply to that. That's when they start trashtalking and saying all the stupid things about the girl dating sonic, and all the stupid things about the sonic couple the other person likes.

I think the way to fix this is if someone on your SonSal drawing says, " I like SonAmy. SonSal sucks, cuz all Sally this and Sally that. " first off know this person is going to blow your head off if you say anything about SonSal being better. Plus this person should really get a life! CUZ THEY'RE PICKING FOR A FIGHT! So if this was on my page I'd say "That's your opinion. I like SonSal more than Sonamy." and nothing else. If you dont reply, other people in the comments are going to and them you'll have 50 comments and less than 15 of them are to you. (OH and if someone said something about Sally being a slut because she doesn't wear clothes, fur is clotes. Plus, Sonic chara's don't have privates.)

There's a word from your Sally fanperson who wants the Sonic Couple world to not fight and be nice ^^ :happybounce:
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FicticiousAnimation Featured By Owner Jun 8, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
THat's awesome. :D I like how he just tells it like it is and doesn't beta around the bush. :D
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LaviArray Featured By Owner Jun 7, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I do agree that people should not hate on Flynn or anyone for preferring one couple in the franchise.

Although, Flynn should have removed all the romance from the story in 2006.

Romance only works well in a story when it's the focus of the story. If a focuses on 2 characters and shows how their relationship works and why they should be together any couple can work. although, when it is thrown in for extra tension, it cheapens characters and weakens the over all story.

Honestly, romance in this franchise should be left to crushes and shi-ptease moments, because Sonic's focus is a fantasy- action, not soap opera.
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uchikun Featured By Owner Jun 7, 2012
I just realized, SonAmy still isn't canon. He just CLEARLY stated it's SORTA canon, emphasis on Amy pursuing Sonic. Meaning it's only canon because AMY LIKES SONIC. So this is just more proof for me.
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TheHumbleFellow Featured By Owner Jun 7, 2012
:iconmbisonyesplz:
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ChaoChaoperson Featured By Owner Jun 7, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
THANK YOU!!!
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MoonlightVegas Featured By Owner Jun 7, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
Alright my turn to speak up.
This is going to cause a lot of hub-bub for no reason.

1. I'm just gonna say I don't really care what's canon, I'm not going to stop liking what I like just because SEGA says it will never happen :I If anyone just decided they were going to stop doing ANYTHING because someone told them it wasn't going to happen, a lot of our famous people wouldn't be here today. Just sayin' life lesson here.

2. Thank. You. Ian.
It's exactly what he said. Sonic is not going to fully commit to ANYONE, that's just asking for fandom problems, NO pairing is EVER going to be considered canon, it can be hinted, shown, and even be presented as "canon" for a short amount of time but it's NEVER going to be canon.
I'm just going to quote from a stamp I made,

--------I mean really, canon means official. If Sonic has flatly stated, "Hey I'm going out with Amy now! You all can start squealing now!" THAT'S canon.
Regardless, anything that HAS HAPPENED. Is canon. Period. It isn't some magical court of law debate it isn't a life or death situation, and it's not a battle.
That doesn't mean I'm saying any of the pairings are canon! They're hinted. I mean currently, Archie is the only comic that actually officially canonalizes pairings. It's not gonna happen anytime soon in the games. Why?
Because our fans are crazy people.
SEGA knows this, and chooses to stay as far away from it as possible.
Archie can do that...well because they're a separate group of people, they write their own story and go by their own rules that are monitored by SEGA and they only mention if things are wrong if it has anything to do with making things difficult in the games or they know good and well the fans will have a freak attack.

I mean honestly think about it.
If Archie...made SonAmy canon in the comics, and SEGA made a game where absolutely no SonAmy would be shown or them being together would be shown, wouldn't that cause confusion and outrage? Exactly why Sally hasn't appeared in the games because they wouldn't have to worry about that.
Same with a lot of the game characters, wonder why Archie refused to put Knuckles with Rouge or Shadow with Amy or Tails with Cream/Cosmo? If they did, SO many fans would expect just the same to happen in the games.---------

And this is why I love Ian "If somebody is going out of their way to make you feel bad about what you prefer, they've got no life. The comics and games are supposed to be fun. Getting bent out of shape over an imaginary pairing is no fun, so tune those people out."

Everyone needs to grow up seriously. Just calm down, who CARES what's canon and what's not canon???

Tl;dr.
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SuperSonic8745 Featured By Owner Jun 7, 2012
&%#@ YOU IAN! First you ruin the Sonic comics,and then you say sonally SUCKS?!?! YOU AND SEGA CAN BOTH GO %@#% YOURSELFS!!!!
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sweetdulce13 Featured By Owner Jun 7, 2012  Student General Artist
woah dude!
people like you are the reason a lot of people hate sally...the only thing you do is making sally look bad ._.
fans like you just wont let other fans enjoy the comics or games.

sonsally doesnt suck, what sucks its to be like you!
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TCH2 Featured By Owner Jun 7, 2012
He never said SonSal sucks; he just said SEGA can't permit them a full relationship, which, in my opinion, is stupid!
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tigasan101 Featured By Owner Jun 14, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
If SEGA did permit a couple, it would most likely be SonAmy, but all the other people that don't like SonAmy and like something else would probably not buy the games anymore which would put SEGA back. Plus, the other fans would be furious at SEGA. Plus, then SonAmy would have the upper hand, so if someone was a SonSal fan for example, they could throw everything in people's faces about SEGA permitting a couple. Then there'd just be twice as more fights here. I think we should just keep all the Sonic Couples here on the internet and leave people making up the rest. Cuz who doesn't love fanfics? teehee
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TCH2 Featured By Owner Jun 14, 2012
I love fanfictions.
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tigasan101 Featured By Owner Jun 14, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
mee two ewe
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uchikun Featured By Owner Jun 6, 2012
It's not that I don't believe this is real. But, it doesn't add up. He says it's SonNobody in the comics, while he also said Sonic is with Sally. That makes no sense.

And why would he even mention Elise if at the end of Sonic 06 Elise never met him?

PLUS: All I've ever heard from SEGA, on their ACTUAL forums; is that Sonic does not like Amy--AT-ALL.
Not to mention Amy is still 8 in a teen body.
I will not say it IS legit, but, I will not say it ISN'T. Until I hear this from SEGA. Because Ian ain't makin' sense. And I can't trust you.
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tigasan101 Featured By Owner Jun 14, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
dude. if they permitted a couple there would be a huge outbreak between all of the couples. The most they can do without making certain people here go CRAZY is hint. So Ian can't say that Sonic and Sally are officailly together in the comics, but in the end of it there could be something. Hinting is the most they can do and I think they should keep the love low and let people make up the rest of what might happen.
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Darkfrostleaf Featured By Owner Jun 7, 2012
"Not to mention Amy is still 8 in a teen body."
In the COMICS. Not in the game. Do NOT even try to put the comic's storyline into the games. Amy is 12 in the games. Alright?
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uchikun Featured By Owner Jun 7, 2012
Not according to Sonic Advance and Sonic CD. :meow:
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Darkfrostleaf Featured By Owner Jun 7, 2012
SEGA redesigned her and changed her age to 12. :|
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uchikun Featured By Owner Jun 7, 2012
They changed her to 15, or it was 16. And that's why, in Sonic Advance, Amy walks over to Sonic, and Sonic asks "what happened to YOU?!" and Amy replies "I made myself older so we can be finally together!" that leads to Sonic freaking out. :)
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Darkfrostleaf Featured By Owner Jun 7, 2012
Fine. I still doubt you but I'll check it out. But I highly doubt.
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:iconuchikun:
uchikun Featured By Owner Jun 7, 2012
Whatever you say. :shrug:
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Zero-Cross Featured By Owner Jun 7, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
-__- Um...no. Have you even PLAYED Sonic Advance 1? I have. Not ONCE did Amy ever say that to Sonic. In fact...the characters never even SPOKE to one another in the game, because there were no cutscenes. In Sonic Advance 2 and 3 there were cutscenes. But in 2, Amy was a hidden character, and not part of the main story. In 3, it was merely the running gag of Amy asking Sonic for a date. PLUS, in Sonic CD...ORIGINALLY, while Amy was 8 years old, Sonic was actually 10 or 11 at the time (he was 10 during Sonic 1, anyway).
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uchikun Featured By Owner Jun 7, 2012
It must've been another game then. I do have Sonic Advance but I have no played it in a while. And in Sonic CD it says Amy is 8 and Sonic is 15. It never said Sonic was 10.
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Zero-Cross Featured By Owner Jun 7, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
That's the AMERICAN manual. And I said Sonic was 10 around in Sonic 1, the source being the manual for the original Japanese version. I never understood why America felt the need to advance Sonic's age like that for the old games. And in Sonic Generations, it's clear that Classic Sonic is much younger than Modern Sonic. SEGA America really caused a lot of confusion.
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xXkureathehedgehogXx Featured By Owner Jun 7, 2012
why not? flynn himself told me this, and he is sally's creator.
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uchikun Featured By Owner Jun 7, 2012
No he's not. :iconwthplz:

He's the writer for the comics. He doesn't own anything. SEGA made Sally, but, like all of the other forgotten characters. They dumped her like poor Mighty, and Nack. And then Archie bought them.

That makes me not believe you even more. Ian didn't make Sally. :lmao:
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xXkureathehedgehogXx Featured By Owner Jun 7, 2012
oh well okay. i was so proud of you for claming down about the couple thing too... and that comment from ian is obviously real. if you can't see that, then you most likely just don't want to see it
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uchikun Featured By Owner Jun 7, 2012
I thought it was a note?
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xXkureathehedgehogXx Featured By Owner Jun 7, 2012
yah, it is, why?
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uchikun Featured By Owner Jun 7, 2012
You just said it was a comment. :facepalm:

I'm not believing it especially now. You clearly faked that. Or Ian is just making no sense. OR SEGA's logic makes no sense. (I doubt the last one)

I want to hear it from SEGA. And it has to be like. Not a stupid picture.
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xXkureathehedgehogXx Featured By Owner Jun 7, 2012
i'll talk to flynn again, if thats what you want.
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TCH2 Featured By Owner Jun 7, 2012
He said Sonic is with Sally, but apparently Sonic can't full commit to her.
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TheRealJadeTheWolf Featured By Owner Jun 7, 2012
That's not what he meant. He said Sonic is into Sally, but isn't in a direct boyfriend-girlfriend relationship with her.
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:icontch2:
TCH2 Featured By Owner Jun 8, 2012
Well, I think that's stupid. SEGA cannot deny that Sonic loves Sally.
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TheRealJadeTheWolf Featured By Owner Jun 11, 2012
That is according to the Archie comics. Sally is no longer actually involved in the games. I feel as the comics are for the nostalgic old-school Sonic fans, or new fans looking to catch the history of the whole thing, or just any Sonic fan looking for a good read.
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TCH2 Featured By Owner Jun 12, 2012
Sally has never really been involved with the games. But I think the comics should be the official storyline for all of Sonic, but that is my opinion.
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TheRealJadeTheWolf Featured By Owner Jun 12, 2012
I think there's way too many storylines in the history of Sonic. I mean, there were both of the Sonic the Hedgehog series, then there was Sonic Underground (that was my personal favorite), Sonic X, I think it was a sort of try-and-fail kind of thing. I do sometimes wonder if it would be easier totry and combine all of the different storylines into one big plot, because all the characters would be included, and nobody would get, how should I say it, "left behind".
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TCH2 Featured By Owner Jun 13, 2012
I would LOVE it if they were all combined together! I'm trying to do that myself.
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uchikun Featured By Owner Jun 7, 2012
I know.
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Psychic2you Featured By Owner Jun 6, 2012
I keep my opinion for my own
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DarkCatTheKhajjit Featured By Owner Jun 6, 2012  Student Digital Artist
thats what Ian Flynn said!?
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Animegirl300 Featured By Owner Jun 5, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Good work to Flynn for this XDD
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CynthiatheChocoholic Featured By Owner Jun 5, 2012
I don't make people "feel bad" of what they prefer. I never force my opinions on anyone. All I do is explain why my opinion is what it is.

SonNobody yet Sonic is currently with Sally? Ian Flynn's logic makes no sense. And the games don't specifically state "Sonic loves Amy" so Flynn's interpretation can be wrong. It's pretty much like arguing whither Rouge likes Knuckles or Shadow, pairings in the games are pretty much open to debate unless it's externally stated. Not internal.

Lastly, I wouldn't care if Sonic got with Amy in the comics. What's so frustrating is the fact Ian Flynn keeps pairing up and breaking up Sonic and Sally like a god dang merry-go-round. Technically Sally doesn't exist as a Sega character so why is it that SHE seems to get more spotlight in the comics than Sonic?
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uchikun Featured By Owner Jun 7, 2012
I can agree with you on everything you said, BUT the fact that Sally does not get the spotlight in the comic. She may in your opinion, but, she doesn't. (not the point)

The games are just for fun. Sonic don't love nobody in them. Amy is just a fangirl who's in way over her head. If Sonic "likes" her. He must be REALLY bad at expressing his so-called "feelings".

All I've ever seen is SEGA saying Sonic doesn't like Amy back. It wouldn't make much sense if he did anyway.
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railover85 Featured By Owner Jun 5, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Woah... Woah... Woah!!! Did Sonikku-Anime admit to being wrong? I wish she hadn't blocked me so I can say I'm proud of her, in the however long I've known her, she never has admitted it!
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